[Teck_n54]

So the bike won’t start but it’s not a engine issue bike runs fine when rolling start and no issues with it but won’t start with the button new to bikes replaced the starter same noise no crank what should I do next can post videos and pictures later

 

[Greg_E]

Kick stand switch and clutch switch might be bad, also starter button might be bad. Or the wiring between all those switches might be bad, where they flex when you turn the bars is a common failure point on some bikes (but not known on z125 yet)

 

[Teck_n54]

Awesome I will check on all this when I get back home appreciate the help

 

[Kawasaki Brad]

Make sure the bike is in neutral. Double check your kill switch isn't on.

What noise does it make? A click like it's trying to start but doesn't have enough juice? Battery might be dead (or toast). Boost it with your car and if that solves it, time for a new battery (terminal connections are known to come loose too).

If it doesn't even click might be the starter solenoid but that is extremely rare on these.

 

[Teck_n54]

Just starter spinning no engine noise at all
when I roll start it it makes a clicking noise but gears go in no problem when ridding. I’ll check voltage what’s regular for these bikes I can check later but for further help ..?

 

[Kaw'ee]

A sound video would really help us if you can and before investigating the below issue

But the most typical problem for what you describe is the limiter gear and/or starter clutch (clicking noise) if you replaced the starter and still have same noise
Check STARTER NOISE #2 VIDEO (whine / fast free spin)

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You need a puller to get the rotor off also if that's the issue
Here's a look inside

 

[Kaw'ee]

I’ll check voltage what’s regular for these bikes I can check later but for further help ..?

 

[Kawasaki Brad]

Just starter spinning no engine noise at all
when I roll start it it makes a clicking noise but gears go in no problem when ridding. I’ll check voltage what’s regular for these bikes I can check later but for further help ..?

I think Kaw'ee got it. Starter spinning but not turning the engine? Starter gear or sprag.

 

[Teck_n54]

Make sure the bike is in neutral. Double check your kill switch isn't on.

What noise does it make? A click like it's trying to start but doesn't have enough juice? Battery might be dead (or toast). Boost it with your car and if that solves it, time for a new battery (terminal connections are known to come loose too).

If it doesn't even click might be the starter solenoid but that is extremely rare on these.

 

[Teck_n54]

So I have a video of the noise when I try and start it

 

[Teck_n54]

check videos

 

[Teck_n54]

 

[Teck_n54]

 

[Kaw'ee]

But the most typical problem for what you describe is the limiter gear and/or starter clutch (clicking noise) if you replaced the starter and still have same noise
You need a puller to get the rotor off also if that's the issue
Here's a look inside

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Ya, second starter same thing so need to take off side cover and look.

Making video right now for this very common issue
should be up right here shortly

 

[Teck_n54]

Oh Mann okay I’ll have to do that some time next week it’s not my biggest project but definitely need to figure it out or take it to a shop. But why does it act normal when roll start .??

 

[Kaw'ee]

Starter clutch when working is only engaged while starting

 

[Teck_n54]

Would this be a expensive fix at a motorcycle dealer

 

[Kaw'ee]

KawasakiBrad works at Dealership and can probably give a pretty close estimate

 

[Kawasaki Brad]

KawasakiBrad works at Dealership and can probably give a pretty close estimate

Actually........ I'm on COVIDcation. Laid off and I got one of those letters in the mail last month that said (in generic terms): it's been fun, here's some severance, your position no longer exists.
I'm not happy about that but I'm not crying either.

With that being said, hypothetically putting myself back in the service writer chair, I'd say something like:
"It's going to depend on how extensively all this has been mucked with.
IF this was a stock starter that failed and was replaced with a genuine Kawasaki/name brand/high quality starter and the harness hasn't been cut, there are no stripped bolts, everything is pretty straightforward we're looking at 1h tops.
If there are surprises in there, if there is something else wrong, if there are stripped bolts and missing hardware, if the harness has been cut, if we're trying to make a chinesium starter function like a real starter, etc, etc. It's just plus plus plus from there."
Shop rates vary but $130/h is pretty standard here in Alberta Canada.

My 2c:
Take it to a local Kawi dealership that has a good reputation. Tell them what is inoperable. Leave it with them for a few days if they want. If you show up demanding immediate service or an estimate while you wait the price goes up. Trust your service adviser. They have probably been doing this for a really long time and tend to know their $#!t. Information, symptoms, noises, are all great. Maybe even a guess or two of what you think it might be. Please don't tell them "I read on a forum" or "I'm sure it's" or "it must be". By all means information is great, but information and advice are different things. If they wanted your advice they would be bringing their bike to you, not the other way around.

For everyone who skipped through my long winded BS:
I'd estimate 1h if it's cut and dried like a sticky sprag (that's my guess btw)
Sky is the limit if it's junk parts, stripped bolts, cut wires, etc.