[colticus]

Anybody here running the new 130/75/12 PMT slicks?
Im thinking this will be my next tire after I wear out the TT93s (which will be soon). I like that the PMT will be a little wider than my current 120/80 yet a minuscule difference in height. Here is a pic of my current TT93s

Also from what I have been reading, the PMTs are actually over a lb lighter than the TT93s, so that should help considering the TT93s slowed the bike down from the stock tires.

 

[Zaph]

If you get those PMT's let us know how the life is. I wouldn't mind a little more stick myself but I still opted for the TT93's because they last longer.

I've heard that if you ride hard and a lot, they are done in a day. I don't want to change tires that much.

 

[Logan Gastio]

I put a set of Mitas Medium compound on yesterday but not getting back on track for a week or two. Anyone running those?

 

[colticus]

If you get those PMT's let us know how the life is. I wouldn't mind a little more stick myself but I still opted for the TT93's because they last longer.

I've heard that if you ride hard and a lot, they are done in a day. I don't want to change tires that much.

I have been impressed with he TT93s so far. I have over 500 track miles on them so far.

 

[Zaph]

Coming up on winter here in Wisconsin. My TT93's are still good and I'm hoping to use them next year. I wonder how they react to being below freezing. More typical race tire compounds are ruined, but I suspect TT93's are closer to a street compound. I'm sure the Mitas and PMT slicks can't be frozen.

 

[Lobot]

I have tried both the TT93s and the PMT slicks with some good results from both. Keep in mind the Dunlops have "soft" on their sidewalls so while they may last a long time on the street, you might also burn through them pretty quickly if you are very aggressive. Here is what our rear Dunlop looked like after 14 hrs running time(approx. 600 miles) in a 24hr enduro. Now the PMTs come in 4 compounds(supersoft, soft, medium & hard) so this year we ran a "hard" rear(same 120/80-12 size) and the tire wear after 14 hrs looked about the same but the overall grip was much better with more stability at the limit. The weight savings is significant as well: the rear TT93 weighs 8lbs. 15.4 oz. vs. 7 lbs. 2.6 oz for the PMT so a solid 1.8 lbs. savings. I also would like to try the 130/75-12 size but right now it's only available in a "medium" compound and in limited supply. I'm sold on the PMTs performance for endurance racing and the cost isn't much more than the Dunlops unless you choose to run the softer compounds which won't last as long.

 

[colticus]

130/75/12 hard
https://www.drowsports.com/pmt-tires-racing-slicks/

 

[Lobot]

Thanks for that link as it's not listed on the PMT / Minimob site yet and they didn't mention any other compounds when I inquired about a medium rear. Unfortunately, everyone I have contacted is out of stock on the 130s except for the soft compound and I doubt that will last an entire 8 hrs of racing. Guess I'll be using the 120/80-12 size again.

 

[colticus]

Finally got the PMT slicks. Although in the 120/80. The 130/75 was on backorder.

Weighed all 3 sets of tires with the same scale and here are the results.

Stock Tires <100miles
IRC 100/90/12 6’ 9 oz
IRC 120/70/12 7’11 oz

~550 hard track miles
Tt93 100/90/12 7’ 9oz
Tt93 120/80/12 7’11 oz

New
Pmt 100/90/12 5’7 oz
Pmt 120/80/12 7’6 oz


Significant difference in the front tire. The PMT is 2 lbs lighter than the TT93. Now I know why my acceleration suffered when I put on the TT93s.

First trackday with the PMTs will be Monday and the first race of the season is the following Saturday. Cant wait to test these things out.

 

[Zaph]

I would be more concerned about weight on full size track bikes, but not so much on little bikes. Still, my primary concern with the 12" race tires is wear. If I can't get at least 4-6 days out of them, I probably won't go that route. I still run out of cornering clearance with the TT93's before they start to slide.

 

[colticus]

I would be more concerned about weight on full size track bikes, but not so much on little bikes. Still, my primary concern with the 12" race tires is wear. If I can't get at least 4-6 days out of them, I probably won't go that route. I still run out of cornering clearance with the TT93's before they start to slide.

Well I’m not like you. I’m concerned about rotating weight. I even have carbon wheels on my bicycle. The 1lb heavier tt93 aggravated me because it was apparent the acceleration suffered because of the weight increase. The bike just doesn’t make enough power to overcome it. Well, it may now with my 143 kit, but not when it was stock motored.

I’ve been told the medium compound pmt will last a full season. So I will update this thread at the end of the year.

 

[Zaph]

I couldn't really feel any difference in acceleration with the TT93 compared to stock, but then again I weigh 220 lbs.

If the tires last a whole season I might still give them a whirl though. It's just that... after about 7 or 8 years of track riding and racing, I am F'n sick of changing tires.

Thanks for the weights and look forward to your comments.

 

[Lobot]

Well I’m not like you. I’m concerned about rotating weight. I even have carbon wheels on my bicycle. The 1lb heavier tt93 aggravated me because it was apparent the acceleration suffered because of the weight increase. The bike just doesn’t make enough power to overcome it. Well, it may now with my 143 kit, but not when it was stock motored.

I’ve been told the medium compound PMT will last a full season. So I will update this thread at the end of the year.

Any chance you can give us your feedback on the PMT slicks after using them all season? Did you ever try the 130 rear? Or any other track tires?
I have a PMT 130 rear and I'm thinking about trying it, but the 120/80-12 works so well I haven't pulled the trigger. Maybe someone has?

 

[Zaph]

Bumping this old thread. Where are you guys with PMT tires buying them?

I can't get the DROW sports guys to answer the phone or and email about stock levels or ordering time.

Anyone buy from Minimob in Canada? I might just buy from Webike again. They have never let me down.

 

[Azlar49]

I think Blair from SV Racing does PMT tires. send him an email and he can let you know if he can get that size.

[email protected]

Edit - I see that size already on his site actually. Send him an email he has been solid with helping me out.

 

[Greg_E]

Last time I talked to Blair a few years ago, he was cleaning up with TT93 tires, and looking at the PMT tires for his team of bikes. If he has them on the site, then I'm guessing he decided the PMT slicks were another level of higher performance. I wonder if he ever got his Mikuni VM24 kits for the KAYO put together, had a lot of discussion about that with him while I was building my TM24 system.

 

[Azlar49]

When I spoke to him last year he said he can get the Dunlops and the PMT tires. But the Kenda's won due to cost for me.

 

[Zaph]

Well just heard back via email from both Drow and Minimob. Drow is out of stock for 1-2 weeks. I don't see the PMT's on the SV racing web site. I used to buy my tire warmers from them though.

But Minimob is getting fresh PMT on Friday so I think I'll give them a shot. I'm going with softs.

 

[Azlar49]

Well just heard back via email from both Drow and Minimob. Drow is out of stock for 1-2 weeks. I don't see the PMT's on the SV racing web site. I used to buy my tire warmers from them though.

But Minimob is getting fresh PMT on Friday so I think I'll give them a shot. I'm going with softs.

His site is abit wonky hence my recommendation to email. If u go to tires its a drop down inside the product

 

[Zaph]

Oh on the sv racing site I found the PMTs under the Kayo section for tires. I already got my order rolling from Minimob in Canada though.

Can't wait to try the softs. Will be hilarious if I burn through them in one day. Maybe I should have just ordered a few sets.